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		<title>By: Len Penzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Penzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points all, Seth. And mark me down as one of those folks who tends to wear their contact lenses too long at times. I&#039;ve been known to wear them for up to a month at time -- although they are specifically designed for that type of abuse, it&#039;s still not recommended because the eyes aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points all, Seth. And mark me down as one of those folks who tends to wear their contact lenses too long at times. I&#8217;ve been known to wear them for up to a month at time &#8212; although they are specifically designed for that type of abuse, it&#8217;s still not recommended because the eyes aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 23:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are pros and cons to everything. A pro being saving money. The con being not guaranteed appropriate customer service or a quality product. Granted you aren&#039;t guaranteed those things in any retail outlet or private practice either, but it is more likely when dealing with a human instead of a voice. I&#039;ve read countless articles on buying spectacles or contact lenses online and bypassing the optometrist and in those articles it talks about all the negative aspects of such. For example, most people who buy their contact lenses online tend to overwear them, thus more likely to have microbial keratitis or ulceration. Granted not everyone does that, but more than likely if you wear contact lenses, you are over-wearing them. As far as spectacles go, the PD is important for your prescription, but so are other factors depending on the amount of prescription you have. They key word here is prescription. It is a medico-legal device just like any pill the M.D. will give you. The fact that it is even legal to just use it willy-nilly and purchase lenses online without knowing anything further is absurd to me. 

As far as mark ups in practices vs online retail shops, it is touch and go. Some private practices need the mark up to be able to make payroll due to the many employees plus education loans they have. In my setting of corporate employed clinic, I don&#039;t set the fees, but we are the cheapest in town with the largest selection. Typically you can get 2 pairs of eyeglasses for about half of what 1 pair costs somewhere else. And I&#039;ve seen the product, it isn&#039;t all cheap materials with huge mark ups. There is quality product in there, so it makes it an even better deal ultimately.

Furthermore, the doctor provides a service and they need to be paid for that service. It is unfortunate that our student loans are a second mortgage (in that case my house is cheaper than my student loans), but that is how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are pros and cons to everything. A pro being saving money. The con being not guaranteed appropriate customer service or a quality product. Granted you aren&#8217;t guaranteed those things in any retail outlet or private practice either, but it is more likely when dealing with a human instead of a voice. I&#8217;ve read countless articles on buying spectacles or contact lenses online and bypassing the optometrist and in those articles it talks about all the negative aspects of such. For example, most people who buy their contact lenses online tend to overwear them, thus more likely to have microbial keratitis or ulceration. Granted not everyone does that, but more than likely if you wear contact lenses, you are over-wearing them. As far as spectacles go, the PD is important for your prescription, but so are other factors depending on the amount of prescription you have. They key word here is prescription. It is a medico-legal device just like any pill the M.D. will give you. The fact that it is even legal to just use it willy-nilly and purchase lenses online without knowing anything further is absurd to me. </p>
<p>As far as mark ups in practices vs online retail shops, it is touch and go. Some private practices need the mark up to be able to make payroll due to the many employees plus education loans they have. In my setting of corporate employed clinic, I don&#8217;t set the fees, but we are the cheapest in town with the largest selection. Typically you can get 2 pairs of eyeglasses for about half of what 1 pair costs somewhere else. And I&#8217;ve seen the product, it isn&#8217;t all cheap materials with huge mark ups. There is quality product in there, so it makes it an even better deal ultimately.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the doctor provides a service and they need to be paid for that service. It is unfortunate that our student loans are a second mortgage (in that case my house is cheaper than my student loans), but that is how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Penzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Penzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 02:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too, Cemlyn. It&#039;s tough finding knowledgeable help nowadays, but sometimes I do get lucky and run into one. Usually, though, I get little help and, sometimes, even completely incorrect information. Very frustrating when you really need help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, Cemlyn. It&#8217;s tough finding knowledgeable help nowadays, but sometimes I do get lucky and run into one. Usually, though, I get little help and, sometimes, even completely incorrect information. Very frustrating when you really need help.</p>
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		<title>By: Cemlyn Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cemlyn Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI

Danny G is right.  I wish I wasn&#039;t so self absorbed as to always want to save money but what can you do ??  We all have to save where we can, only wish our governments felt the same !!  I love the old fashioned hardware store where the old guy, usually, knew everything there was to know about all the things in the shop and you could buy however many you needed and not be stuck with some prepackaged item.

In the UK there is a hardware chain, I forget the name now, something like Homebase, where they started to hire Old Aged Pensioners simply to answer people&#039;s questions like &quot; How do I fix that leaking tap?&quot;  These guys would love to chat, walk around the store, showing you the tools, the parts you need and even show you what you needed to do on some of the fittings in the store.  These guys were paid next to nothing, they were happy coz they had something to do and they felt useful and they could mix with people, and the customer was happy for the same reason, they could talk to somebody who knew more than &quot;Isle 6 I think &quot;  Sadly, that scheme was stopped because some idiot customers used to sue the store because they bungled what the helper had told them.  I used to enjoy talking to these guys.  The real sad thing I could be one of those guys now !!!!</description>
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<p>Danny G is right.  I wish I wasn&#8217;t so self absorbed as to always want to save money but what can you do ??  We all have to save where we can, only wish our governments felt the same !!  I love the old fashioned hardware store where the old guy, usually, knew everything there was to know about all the things in the shop and you could buy however many you needed and not be stuck with some prepackaged item.</p>
<p>In the UK there is a hardware chain, I forget the name now, something like Homebase, where they started to hire Old Aged Pensioners simply to answer people&#8217;s questions like &#8221; How do I fix that leaking tap?&#8221;  These guys would love to chat, walk around the store, showing you the tools, the parts you need and even show you what you needed to do on some of the fittings in the store.  These guys were paid next to nothing, they were happy coz they had something to do and they felt useful and they could mix with people, and the customer was happy for the same reason, they could talk to somebody who knew more than &#8220;Isle 6 I think &#8221;  Sadly, that scheme was stopped because some idiot customers used to sue the store because they bungled what the helper had told them.  I used to enjoy talking to these guys.  The real sad thing I could be one of those guys now !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 20smoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>20smoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m definitely going to try this next time.  I spent like $450 on my last pair of glasses which really pissed me off.  Thanks for the tips here.  I will bookmark this page as a reference!
.-= 20smoney´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://20smoney.com/2010/01/25/selective-hearing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Selective Hearing…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely going to try this next time.  I spent like $450 on my last pair of glasses which really pissed me off.  Thanks for the tips here.  I will bookmark this page as a reference!<br />
.-= 20smoney´s last blog ..<a href="http://20smoney.com/2010/01/25/selective-hearing/" rel="nofollow">Selective Hearing…</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slate.com also recently featured an article on this, which inspired me to give it a try.  I wear contacts most often, but wanted a stylish pair of glasses for the side.

I used a company in India and had a pair of glasses for under $25 out the door. A few things I&#039;d note from my experience:

- Measuring your Pupil Distance isn&#039;t that easy (and is a necessity for good fitting glasses and correct lenses). If possible, have your eye doctor do this for you.

- Customer service isn&#039;t all that good.  But I expected that..

Overall, I was quite pleased. I&#039;ve since recommended it to my siblings, both of whom have bought pairs for occasional use. 

Hope your readers are also inspired!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slate.com also recently featured an article on this, which inspired me to give it a try.  I wear contacts most often, but wanted a stylish pair of glasses for the side.</p>
<p>I used a company in India and had a pair of glasses for under $25 out the door. A few things I&#8217;d note from my experience:</p>
<p>- Measuring your Pupil Distance isn&#8217;t that easy (and is a necessity for good fitting glasses and correct lenses). If possible, have your eye doctor do this for you.</p>
<p>- Customer service isn&#8217;t all that good.  But I expected that..</p>
<p>Overall, I was quite pleased. I&#8217;ve since recommended it to my siblings, both of whom have bought pairs for occasional use. </p>
<p>Hope your readers are also inspired!</p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious commentary. :) No worries, Len.
.-= Wojciech Kulicki´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FiscalFizzle/~3/ZFZvvrUynBs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YNAB 3 Review: Give Me Back My Mvelopes&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious commentary. <img src='http://lenpenzo.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  No worries, Len.<br />
.-= Wojciech Kulicki´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FiscalFizzle/~3/ZFZvvrUynBs/" rel="nofollow">YNAB 3 Review: Give Me Back My Mvelopes</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of weeks ago I did a post on repairing eyeglasses for a lot less than replacing them brand new. I got an email from someone who works in a shop that does repairs by mail.  Ahhh, one of the fringe benefits of blogging!

But I want to comment on the bogus poster - you&#039;re not alone Len, I had one myself back in November.  I&#039;m willing to bet I&#039;m a bigger dope than you, because the person who wrote the post on my site posed as an attractive girl, with her own website, and the post itself was solid.  I should have guessed since the given last name was &quot;Lohan&quot;, but like I said, I&#039;m a bigger dope than you are.

Actually, it was the Lohan thing that got me suspicious.  I tracked &quot;her&quot; visits and found they came from India!  When I questioned the poster about the last name, she turned into a he, and didn&#039;t want anyone using the given website for contact.  

Needless to say, I pulled the post, hopefully wiser for the experience.
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2010/01/23/buying-vs-renting-a-home-not-all-about-money/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buying vs Renting a Home – Its Not All About Money&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I did a post on repairing eyeglasses for a lot less than replacing them brand new. I got an email from someone who works in a shop that does repairs by mail.  Ahhh, one of the fringe benefits of blogging!</p>
<p>But I want to comment on the bogus poster &#8211; you&#8217;re not alone Len, I had one myself back in November.  I&#8217;m willing to bet I&#8217;m a bigger dope than you, because the person who wrote the post on my site posed as an attractive girl, with her own website, and the post itself was solid.  I should have guessed since the given last name was &#8220;Lohan&#8221;, but like I said, I&#8217;m a bigger dope than you are.</p>
<p>Actually, it was the Lohan thing that got me suspicious.  I tracked &#8220;her&#8221; visits and found they came from India!  When I questioned the poster about the last name, she turned into a he, and didn&#8217;t want anyone using the given website for contact.  </p>
<p>Needless to say, I pulled the post, hopefully wiser for the experience.<br />
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2010/01/23/buying-vs-renting-a-home-not-all-about-money/" rel="nofollow">Buying vs Renting a Home – Its Not All About Money</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Len, love the editorial comments--too funny.

@Kevin@OoutOfYourRut, OMG, I just got an email from Jennifer &quot;Lohan&quot; this morning! I replied asking for more info and haven&#039;t heard back--thanks for letting me know.
.-= Susan Tiner´s last blog ..People: Pay Someone Else to Care! =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Len, love the editorial comments&#8211;too funny.</p>
<p>@Kevin@OoutOfYourRut, OMG, I just got an email from Jennifer &#8220;Lohan&#8221; this morning! I replied asking for more info and haven&#8217;t heard back&#8211;thanks for letting me know.<br />
.-= Susan Tiner´s last blog ..People: Pay Someone Else to Care! =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Monroe on a Budget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monroe on a Budget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another tactic: telling the blog host it&#039;s OK to not link back to the guest author&#039;s blog. Hmm. Wrong answer to give a reporter who cheerfully links to pieces at the competition.
.-= Monroe on a Budget´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogsmonroe.com/budget/2010/01/use-your-tax-refund-to-save-money-in-the-long-run/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Use your tax refund to save money in the long run&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another tactic: telling the blog host it&#8217;s OK to not link back to the guest author&#8217;s blog. Hmm. Wrong answer to give a reporter who cheerfully links to pieces at the competition.<br />
.-= Monroe on a Budget´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.blogsmonroe.com/budget/2010/01/use-your-tax-refund-to-save-money-in-the-long-run/" rel="nofollow">Use your tax refund to save money in the long run</a> =-.</p>
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